I am a 20 year old psych major and I am reaaaaly interested in the sugar arts/ pastry and baking arts that is. I am no good at drawing or painting but I have a lot of ideas in my head but don't know how to put them on paper. Most people would say why not just go to culinary school? Well I want some education in painting, drawing, textiles, sculpture and pottery cuz I think it will enhance my pastry arts abilities. Where should I start? Art there schools that teach art to people like me who are barely competent in the stick man level of skill?
I want to get the best training ( Vassar etc.) but I am kinda talentless I have no portfolios or books filled with doodles so what's the best route. Any help is useful help to me.
Thanks!
Art students/teachers/experts/love... help!!!!!!!!?
Trust me, drawing skills aren't everything. I have met so many people who cannot draw for their soul, but they make it up with other talents. I've met successful graphic designers, industrial designers, sculptors, cooks, and many other creative professional who can't draw; yet, they bring other skills to the table. For example Frank Gehry, renowned architect, doesn't know how to draw perfectly yet does sketches. Nonetheless drawing is a basic skill that can be integral to your process of creation. Without basic sketching skills it can make things difficult.
Every college should have basic art classes you can take. Even if there isn't an art major, there's usually a beginning art class that is offered as an elective. Community colleges can be great introductions to art education because they are so affordable. It does help that the environment you are in is solid, but it's not a requirement. There are colleges that require a portfolio, but these are typically the private schools and high budget schools (although check with the college's requirements and prereqs). There are many great teachers out there that can greatly enhance your training. Your patience and determination will be your greatest assets.
Also I'd recommend that if you haven't taken basic pastry cooking classes, go ahead and do so. It'd be shame if you got to culinary school and realized you don't enjoy it.
Other suggestions:
-Meet with a counselor or advisor (psych, culinary, art) so that you can get professional help. It will be easier to map out your college career.
-Ask people in the field what kind of training they received. Research the field.
-Practice creating constantly. Even if you cannot draw, there are others ways of getting your ideas onto paper (i.e. collage, writing, photography, etc)
-Stay in your psych classes. F's help nobody.
Good luck on your journey!
Reply:I would say look into taking a basic drawing class at the school you're at now. go for Drawing I or basic design and composition. those will help you learn the basics and the theories that art is based on. once you get them down, you'll know exactly how to break the rules to make really really great art. good luck!
Reply:Many art schools offer a full battery of visual and culinary arts. I know the Art institute of Chicago does for a fact. The last poster is right, foray into it first, see if you can really stand it--it's not for everyone, but if you have the drive for it, you can do it. Work hard, build a portfolio, get help, a mentor maybe. You can't be a great artist overnight and it gets very, very frustrating. You will want to quit, but if this is truly your dream and you want a comprehensive education (which, by the way, is an excellent and open minded idea you have, you should pride yourself on such an open outlook), then stick with it, cause you WILL make it! Best of luck!!
Reply:As someone addicted to drawing classes I suggest you get the best education. In pastry arts.
It's trite and it annoys people sometimes to say that drawing and art are highly subjective things -- but it is also true. If your primary interest is in drawing as an aid to planning cake decorations et al, well, you can learn how to draw what is important to you, and you can learn how to draw what is important to you on your own. Lay down an idea, in pencil. Sketch it out lightly. Now of course you see what is wrong. Instead of despairing, draw over it. Try to make the next set of lines reflect it better. As you will draw you will find the first set of lines being obscured and going away. It took me years to start drawing lightly for my first lines. If you think you've laid them down too heavily, do not panic. Learn how to draw with an eraser. In fact, learn how to draw with an eraser anyhow.
You learn to draw by drawing, period. The great thing about a drawing class is it gives you a social and supportive environment to try new things. It does this in part by assigning artificial priorities on what your drawing is going to be. Thus you can find yourself drawing the nude or a still life. What has that got to do with cakes? I love drawing class, but you don't need classes to draw your pastries well. Just draw out some ideas, and fix your drawings and fix them again until they look right to you.
Reply:What I have found about people who say they can't draw is that they are intimidated by the idea of capturing a whole object on paper. The trick is to look at things in terms of their individual components and how they relate to one another.
For example, many people will draw a tree as two straight lines and a bushy puff on top. While these are roughly the components that make up a tree, you need to look closer--how many lines actually make up a tree's trunk? Where are these lines curved, and by how much? Is the trunk smooth, or heavily textured? If it is textured, what kinds of marks will represent this? What is the shape of the tree's foliage? How far does it extend past the trunk? Are the branches visible through the leaves, or not? Which parts of the tree are well lit, and which parts are in shadow?
Basically, start by taking time to carefully observe the world around you. I reccomend Mona Brookes' book Drawing With Children, because it shows you how to go about this process of breaking something down into its components. Even though it is about drawing with children, it is very instructive for adults, too. I can't speak for her other book, which focuses on drawing with older children and teens, but it's probably worth checking out.
Most of all, practice! If you don't like the way something looks the first time you draw it, draw it again. If you ask anyone with artistic skill, chances are they will tell you that they have spent hours methodically drawing something over and over before they were satisfied. For example, I went through a hand phase, where I would do nothing but look at my own hand and try to capture it on paper. If it didn't look right, I would try again, adjusting what I didn't like and keeping what I did.
Good luck, I truly believe that it is possible!
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